In this special series, ASPI’s Dr David Engel and Dr Gatra Priyandita have spoken to a number of special guests about the Australia-Indonesia Comprehensive Strategic Partnership, and the five pillars supporting it.

In this final episode of the series, David and Gatra speak to the Hon Tim Watts MP, Australia’s Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs, and Dr Dino Patti Djalal, Founder of the Foreign Policy Community of Indonesia about changes in bilateral relations over the years, including developments in the defence relationship, and how the two countries can work together despite their different perspectives on strategic issues.